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 18/09/2010 00:58
 
ishti wrote:

We do not worship the grave, we worship the alive (according to our aqeedah) person/s within that grave eg Data saab Khwaja Ajmeri etc this is indeed a greater means of thawaab than doing sujood direct to Allah. It is all upon intention; ours is worshipping Allah swt and his great pious saints/walis. --According to the brailvi school of thought. Please reply**

Asalam alaykum

In reference to what Ishti has written, this is a complete misrepresentation of what the Ahle Sunnah Wal Jamaat believe and is non-compliant with the tenets of Islam.

Firstly worship is to Allah (SWT) alone, what you have is a mis-alignement in understanding the difference between worship and asking for help. In essence all help is from Allah (swt), nothing or no-one can exist without Allah (swt). Also Im assuming you are not Sunni, as your subject title leads me to believe,so im probably thinking that you are a wahabi (a bidatti group created about 100 years ago)!!!

Now the objection your indirectly trying to represent is, why do we ask someone for help other than Allah (swt). If this is truly shirk, then tell me what your thoughts are about Hazrat Musa (as) who asked Allah,

"And give me a minister from my Family. Haroon, 'my brother'. Add to my strenght through him". (20:29)

Why did Hazrat Musa (as) not ask Allah for help directly, why through Harron (as)... Please answer?

In Ashatullumas'at (chapter) Ziarat -ul-Qaboor, Imam Ghazalee says:"The person who is asked for help in his life may be asked for help even after his death".

Imam Shafee says,"The grave of Musa Kazim is a tested antidote for the acceptance of prayers".

So tell me what with the above references, what do you say about the personalities in question? Please reply then we can move onto my next point!


It is the duty of Muslims to love and respect the Family of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) because the Holy Prophet has said in a hadith, “When I am loved, then my family members, whom I love should also be loved.” (Tirmidhi)
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 18/09/2010 01:55
 

Sorry Qadri Blessed i think you are mistaken because I am not a filthy wahabi. I am 100% Suni Breylvi Chisti. I don't think you read my post properly, read it carefully i do specify wahabism as sect but i have mentioned them in disguise....you now "the sect that believes the prophet and sahaba and Allah is enough for them" ie they don't care about walis and don't do loud zikar and don't kiss their thumbs and don't believe in yaarmi sharif etc. I heard everything i said in a speech at birmingham that it is why i said it with so much confidence, i don't think i have any mistakes and I am certainly not a wahabi shia.

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 20/09/2010 11:30
 

Salam,

Its easy to misinterpret, when something is being said in disguise. So accept my apology for thinking you were a wobbler, I can see how traumatic the thought of this is to you.

jazakallah.


It is the duty of Muslims to love and respect the Family of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) because the Holy Prophet has said in a hadith, “When I am loved, then my family members, whom I love should also be loved.” (Tirmidhi)
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 06/02/2011 05:55
 

I cant believe how somebody could even create a thread under this title !! Its sad to see ignorance !!

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 06/02/2011 23:59
 
i agree with logic here. this eis the most stupid title. i feel sorry for dis guy's life. if All SUNNIS are grave worshippers, what the hell are you? you can't say you're wahabi(or something alike) because they all call themselves sunnis. So what does that leave? thats right, shia ism and fam there whole life is based around worshipping the graves of their 12 imams. bro hu created this thread u jus got bated out nicely blad, ur a bate brelvi tryin to b a fake waabi as it were. lol
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