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 13/06/2010 23:15
 

Salaam,

A thought crossed my mind some time back regarding the situation in the Middle East which has been a problem for the past 60 plus years. This issue is the single most important issue facing not only the Muslim world but the non muslim world also. Zionism is now being recognised as the biggest enemy and threat to world peace for many a decade. But how many of us know the reality? What is the real situation? The purpose of this thread is to put the feelers out and see how many of us understand the crisis and what the available remedies are. Put forward what you think is going on. I have a feeling many of us arent really aware and this is nothing which we exclusively are to be blamed for. Rather it is one of the objectives of the Zionist war machine that the world remains oblivious to it's terror and tyranny.


May The Peace Of Allah (swt) Be Upon Sayyiddina Muhammad His Family, His Companions and Those Who Follow Them Until The Day Of Judgement. Wasalaam Ghulam e Meeran Qadri Jilani
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 13/06/2010 23:42
 

Salaam,

Excellent idea Brother Meeran. Before I give my opinion, I will wait and see what our youth have to say regarding the creation of Isreal. The Zionists have spread huge misinformation on how the state was created and continue to do so. Lets see what the public have to say about it.

ok youth over to you.

was-salaam

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 16/06/2010 12:56
 
 Modified By Qadri Blessed  on 16/06/2010 06:00:43
Salaam brothers,

Not sure how comprehensive my knowledge on this is, but someone may be able to provide a highler level of acute focus. i dont sit there and listen to conspiracy theories or give them much time anymore, however entertaining they might be. I just try to load the facts and make conclusive rational decisons in my own head.


In summary,

I believe whilst they were living around the world in various countries (US/Poland/Germany etc) the powerful amongst their race were concocting a plan to take Palestine as their Mother land, the idea at this point would have been alien to most practicing yahud.

Let it be known, the zionists were not religious individuals, but were merely barbarians who wanted their way, so they made approaches to enter jobs of official standing to ensure they always had a say in a matter, by this way they could veto anything they disliked or censored anything they did not want to get out!

With the help of the british and US they made their move to take land in palestine under the pretext that they have a right to live there. So various treaties were enacted to ensure the co-existence of these people with the population of palestine. Later as support grew, they started getting more power and more funding in preperation to fight a war that at first was not going to be easy for them.


Through the use of media, governments, local opinion they waged a war against the muslims to what they called in defence of their right to Israel. We know that the torah does not approve of this, but they did not do this for the sake of religion!

in my honest opinion, I believe they are working on ways to take over the middle east and no country in the middle east is safe!


Furthermore, in order to change the situation and help the palestinians we need to change 'public opinion' towards Israel and Palestine!!!




It is the duty of Muslims to love and respect the Family of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) because the Holy Prophet has said in a hadith, “When I am loved, then my family members, whom I love should also be loved.” (Tirmidhi)
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 17/06/2010 01:19
 

Qadri Blessed wrote:


in my honest opinion, I believe they are working on ways to take over the middle east and no country in the middle east is safe!


Furthermore, in order to change the situation and help the palestinians we need to change 'public opinion' towards Israel and Palestine!!!

Salaam,

What makes you think they want to take over the Mid East? Its interesting you feel this way but the question is WHY? What evidence is there? As far as public opinion is concerned I feel the public already know the reality but the powers that be act as a major obstacle in ensuring justice for the aggrieved.


May The Peace Of Allah (swt) Be Upon Sayyiddina Muhammad His Family, His Companions and Those Who Follow Them Until The Day Of Judgement. Wasalaam Ghulam e Meeran Qadri Jilani
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 17/06/2010 13:49
 
Wasalam, ok a few basic points for one to read

Orthodox jews believe that the messiah will give them land promised to the jews, this land will be given to the jews and jews will live in harmony with muslims/christians.

The Zionists as with many people we know take the radical appraoch and interpret things their way!

Ezekiel 47:13-20 provides a definition of borders of land in which the twelve tribes of Israel will live during the final redemption, at the end of days. The borders of the land described by the text in Ezekiel include the northern border of modern Lebanon, eastwards (the way of Hethlon) to Zedad and Hazar-enan in modern Syria; south by southwest to the area of Busra on the Syrian border (area of Hauran in Ezekiel); follows the Jordan River between the West Bank and the land of Gilead to Tamar (Ein Gedi) on the western shore of the Dead Sea; From Tamar to Meribah Kadesh (Kadesh Barnea), then along the Brook of Egypt (see debate below) to the Mediterranean Sea. The territory defined by these borders is divided into twelve strips, one for each of the twelve tribes.

Hence, Numbers 34 and Ezekiel 47 define different but similar borders which include the whole of contemporary Lebanon, both the West Bank and the Gaza Strip and Israel, except for the South Negev and Eilat. Small parts of Syria are also included.

It is the duty of Muslims to love and respect the Family of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) because the Holy Prophet has said in a hadith, “When I am loved, then my family members, whom I love should also be loved.” (Tirmidhi)
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