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 07/02/2011 01:06
 

my Dear Brother, if you read my post, it cleary mentions what i am talking about, i said il prove to you that the Holy Prophet [Peace be upon Him & His Family] can hear from NEAR & FAR while they were amoungst us without a showdow & now amoungst us without a body. (Proven from Sahih Hadith`s).

I havent suggested any evidence to prove the total knowlegde of The Holy Prophet [Peace be upon Him & His Family].

So, if you disagree that the Prophet [Peace be upon Him & His Family] can hear from FAR & NEAR, which i have already proven, then please lets discuss, but firstly you have to disagree with the Hadith i have presented & say it is fabricated.

Bro, any chance of informing me of what is wrong with my arabic footer?

Jazak`ALLAH

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 08/02/2011 10:48
 
Bro I'm not saying it is not possible for RasulAllah saw to see the unseen. What I am trying to say is that there are certain unseens Allah subhanahu wata'ala(swt) allowed him (saw) to see. I mean the whole of islam is ghayb to us and RasulAllah(saw) saw that ghayb and passed it to us. Eveything related to islam that was revealed unto him. Your belief is that he can be anywhere at anytime and wallah he can, but that is only if Allah swt allows him. Obviously everything is done by the will of Allah swt but how can you identify that the act that is mentioned in the hadith you have given is done by the natural powers of RasulAllah. If it were that way then he (saw) would be constantly seeing and hearing things because the dropping of the rock is not the only thing that goes on in the whole universe. This has become such a big mas'ala o aqeedah in this day and age, but can you show me any sahih narration that specificely states about him(saw) be hadhir and nadhir. If not, then the this is not a matter of aqeedah that needs dwelling on.

Concerning the point you raised about me mentioning about the total knowledge of the prophet saw, well according to you the RasulAllah saw can be present and witnessing anything at anytime (ofcourse if he has this power, then understanding what he is witnessing should be nothing). So this where i assumed my point from. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is your aqeedah?

Please forgive me if I have made any mistakes in this post as I have only used my own intution and not consulted any aalims, and my brain is not up to speed today.Jazkallah
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 08/02/2011 23:40
 

Brother, some people may have difficulty in comprehending how the Prophet [May ALLAH bless Him and His Family] could have so much power to the extent that he hazir o nazir. Firstly such a thing can never be difficult for the Prophet [May ALLAH bless Him and His Family], and secondly there is nothing to be surprised by when ALLAH grants his special servants abilities of such nature.

Hafidhh Ibn Kathir writes:

An example of this would be of the Angel Izra’eel Alaihi salaam, who at all times has the Lawh-e-Mahfooz (guarded tablet) in his sight, and it is through this he sees the whole world. He even visits every house on land and under water five times a day. [Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Surah Sajdah, under verse 11. Also in Tareek Ibn Kathir vol.1, Chapter on Lawh-e-Mahfooz]

Apart from his servants, Allah has even given power to Shaytaan, who sits on his throne in the sea and sees you wherever you may be. [Surah Al-’Araaf, under verse 27]

So if Allah can bestow such powers to a Kafir then why is it so difficult to believe that He can bestow such powers to the most beloved of his creation - Our Prophet [May Allah Bless Him and His Family]?

The evidence provided above, was to demonstrate that the Prophet [May Allah bless Him and His Family] is a witness over the whole of his Ummah - and this is what is meant by Hadhir/Nadhir.


ALSO.....

ALLAH [Glorified & Exalted] says in the Qur’an

"O Prophet! [May Allah bless Him & His Family] no doubt, We have sent you as a witness, bearer of glad tiding and a Warner"

[Surah Al-Ahzab, verse 45.]

The Qur’an refers to RasoolAllah [Peace be upon Him & His Family] as ‘Shahid’(witness) and the witness is someone who sees whilst being present. [Mufradaat, Imam Raghib, under the word Shahid]

Allah sent the Prophet [May Allah bless Him & His Family] as Shahid. It is for this reason we refer to him as metaphorically being Haadhir/Nadhir and that he is not Hadhir/Nadhir in the way that are the Angels Kiraman, Katibeen. (The Angels who are constantly present on the right and left shoulder of every human being.)

I hope you accept the truth abouth The powers recieved from ALLAH [Glorified & Exalted] by The Our Beloved Holy Prophet [Peace be upon Him & His Family].

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