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 28/11/2009 23:55
 

My parents always say we are sunni and that some of my relatives are wahabi. But my cousins always maintain they are sunnis. When ive tried asking my parents what is the difference between us and them, they just say that wahabis dont go to khatams, believe in buzurgs or do dua for the dead. But surely there must be more to it than just this. Please can someone explain for me in lay mans terms what all this means?

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 29/11/2009 11:32
 

ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THEM AND US IS THAT THEY ALWAYS LOOK TO LOWER THE STATUS OF THE BLESSED MESSENGER OF ALLAH (SWT) WHEREAS THE SUNNIS ON THE HAND LOOK TO ELEVATE THE STATUS OF THE MOST BELOVED OF ALLAH (SWT). FOR THE SUNNIS, OUR HOLY PROPHET IS THE MOST HIGHEST OF CREATION, AND THE MOST DESERVING OF PRAISE AMONGST CREATION. WE BELIEVE HE IS ALIVE IN HIS GRAVE AND WITH THE WILL OF ALLAH (SWT) HE CAN BE PRESENT IN ANY PLACE HE SO WISHES, EVEN A MULTITUDE OF PLACES SIMULTANEOUSLY. WE ARE HOPEFUL OF HIS INTERCESSIONS IN THE DUNYA AND THE HEREAFTER. THE WAHABIS BELIEVE HE IS A NORMAL MAN AND THAT WE SHOULD RESPECT HIM AS AN ELDER BROTHER. THEY BELIEVE HE IS DEAD, TURNED TO DUST AND CANNOT HELP ANY OF HIS NATION, THEY BELIEVE HE HAS NO KNOWLEDGE OF THE UNSEEN AND HIS INTERCESSION IS NOT VALID UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGMENT.


May The Peace Of Allah (swt) Be Upon Sayyiddina Muhammad His Family, His Companions and Those Who Follow Them Until The Day Of Judgement. Wasalaam Ghulam e Meeran Qadri Jilani
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 29/11/2009 12:26
 

I DONT THINK YOUR PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WAHABIS THATS WHY THEY HAVE TOLD YOU THINGS WHICH ARE NOT TRUE. TO BEGIN WITH, WE ARE NOT WAHABIS, WE ARE AHLUS SUNNAH WAL JAMMAH. WE DO BELIEVE IN BUZURGS AND WE DO DUA FOR THE DEAD. JUST BECAUSE WE DO NOT PROSTRATE TO THE THEIR GRAVES OR CALL UPON THEM FOR HELP DOES NOT MEAN WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THEM. WE ONLY PAY THEM THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE AND DO NOT CROSS BOUNDARIES BY OVER PRAISING THEM. AS FAR AS KHATAMS ARE CONCERNED, WE CONSIDER THIS TO BE AN REPREHENSIBLE BIDDAH AND THERFORE DO NOT PARTAKE IN SUCH MATTERS. WE ARE UPON THE TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET (SAW) AND HIS COMPANIONS. THIS IS ONE OF THE SIGNS OF THOSE WHO WILL ENTER JANNAH FROM AMONGST THE 72/73 SECTS. THIS LABEL WAHABI HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE FOLLOWERS OF SHEIKH MUHAMMAD IBN ABDUL WAHAB (RA), WHO WE BELIEVE IS SOMEBODY WHO REVIVED TRUE MONOTHEISM AND FILTERED OUT ALL THE POLYTHEISTIC BELIEFS AND PRACTICES WHICH HAD SLOWLY CREPT INTO THE UMMAH.

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 29/11/2009 12:30
 
kabeer wrote:

I DONT THINK YOUR PARENTS HAVE THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WAHABIS THATS WHY THEY HAVE TOLD YOU THINGS WHICH ARE NOT TRUE. TO BEGIN WITH, WE ARE NOT WAHABIS, WE ARE AHLUS SUNNAH WAL JAMMAH. WE DO BELIEVE IN BUZURGS AND WE DO DUA FOR THE DEAD. JUST BECAUSE WE DO NOT PROSTRATE TO THE THEIR GRAVES OR CALL UPON THEM FOR HELP DOES NOT MEAN WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN THEM. WE ONLY PAY THEM THE RESPECT THEY DESERVE AND DO NOT CROSS BOUNDARIES BY OVER PRAISING THEM. AS FAR AS KHATAMS ARE CONCERNED, WE CONSIDER THIS TO BE AN REPREHENSIBLE BIDDAH AND THERFORE DO NOT PARTAKE IN SUCH MATTERS. WE ARE UPON THE TEACHINGS OF THE PROPHET (SAW) AND HIS COMPANIONS. THIS IS ONE OF THE SIGNS OF THOSE WHO WILL ENTER JANNAH FROM AMONGST THE 72/73 SECTS. THIS LABEL WAHABI HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THE FOLLOWERS OF SHEIKH MUHAMMAD IBN ABDUL WAHAB (RA), WHO WE BELIEVE IS SOMEBODY WHO REVIVED TRUE MONOTHEISM AND FILTERED OUT ALL THE POLYTHEISTIC BELIEFS AND PRACTICES WHICH HAD SLOWLY CREPT INTO THE UMMAH.

I AM GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE NAME OF THIS DEVIANT. CAN YOU KINDLY EXPLAIN TO US WHAT WAS SO POLYTHEISTIC ABOUT THE BELIEFS AND PRACTICES WHICH HE CHOSE TO ERADICATE? AND ALSO WHILE YOU'RE AT IT, PLEASE ALSO EXPLAIN WHY NO OTHER SCHOLAR BEFORE HIM ADOPTED HIS STANCE? I MEAN, HE ONLY ARRIVED ON EARTH AROUND 2 CENTURIES AGO. SO WERE ALL HIS PREDECESSORS DEVIANT AND HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO WAS UPON THE HAQ?


May The Peace Of Allah (swt) Be Upon Sayyiddina Muhammad His Family, His Companions and Those Who Follow Them Until The Day Of Judgement. Wasalaam Ghulam e Meeran Qadri Jilani
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 29/11/2009 18:25
 
 Modified By Sunnihanfimatouridi  on 29/11/2009 13:26:11

The Wahabis have some inherently wrong beliefs such as:
- they believe that ones Actions are included in Iman. They believe such things like if one purposely misses his obligatory prayers he becomes a disbeliever.
- they say that whoever asks for intercession from anyone other than Allah SWT, that person becomes a disbeliever, i.e they do not believe in intermediaries between oneself and Allah SWt.

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