only_tawheed wrote:
Qadri Blessed - Asalamu Alaykum
My post will be in blue below
Assalaamu alikum
at that time the taraveeh was aproved becasue the 4 khalifah were still around.
Qadri Blessed 24/03 - So what is your point? Lets for a second go back to the original meaning of Bidda, you would I think agree with me Bidah is in it's simplest form of understanding would aquaint to, "any new thing that has been introduced into Islam after Hazoor Pak (saw)".
Look carefully at the words any new thing!!!
So, I think we have the same understanding that Islam came as a complete way of life for us and no new thing is required, what would then be the purpose of having anything new in Islam, such as the Quran as a compiled book, the Second Azan in Juma and so on? Are you propogating the view that Islam infact did not come complete and we needed these innovations to make Islam complete?!
So if lets take your point, Hazoor Pak (saw) said, follow my Sunnah and the Sunnah of my Khulafa Rashideen, can you confirm to me
1) how many Khulafa Rashideen there were?
2) When was the dilectial signs put on the Quran (i.e the zaber, zeer, and pech) and was this within the era of the Khulafa e Rashideen?
More importantly did Hazoor Pak (saw) not clearly say to the Sahaba to not collect my hadiths? So why was this done, if all Bidah leads to hellfire are you saying that the Sahaba & Imam Muslim, Bukhari etc.. are destined for hellfire (mazallah)!?!
You have answered your question yourself. The Prophet (saw) said, follow my Sunnah and the Sunnah of my khulafa rashideen.
so milad un nabi gives us a chance to bring more people in islam
And can you pleease tell me the extent to which people have become muslims due to Milad?
can you please tell me does milad un nabi stop you from any sunah or wajib or any fard...
Qadri blessed 24/03 - How can you pull this stat togeather, virtually impossible to say how many non-muslims/bad aqidah hearts were touched by the Milad and who might mend their ways in years/months/weeks/days to come?
Even if it does not stop you from doing a fard or wajib act doesnt make it permissable. Stealing, gambling, back biting. These all do not stop you from doing fard or wajib acts. Can we then say that they are permissable?
Qadri Blessed 24/03 - Up until now I thought you had a certain amount of intelligence, guess you need to work on this. Stealing/Gambling have been made haram for you even backbitting I think, so either way they are totally not permissiable why compare? Has the Quran or Sunnah declared celebrating Milad as unlawful/Haram??? So is it not the case it is acceptable to do an act in Islam unless it goes against the law of Allah and the saying of the Prophet (Saw)?
NOTE: I am in no way comparing the above acts to Mawlid, I am just using the idea of permissible to non permissable.
Qadri Blessed 24/03 - My friend you are comparing these acts to milad, how else was you to explain your lucid rationale!!! It upsets me when people find any means or way to dilute the love for Rasoollallah (saw)!!! Ask yourself do we need a reason to love Rasoollallah (SAW), the very personality that has no comparison, the very personality came as a mercy to the worlds, the very personality who changed the Qibla for muslims??? Milad is a day of Ibaddat, whether on 12th Rabbi Ul Awwal or anyother day you wish to celebrate it. And remember by celebrating the day is remember the day Allah bestowed a great favour upon us, now are you saying that Hazoor Pak (saw) is not a favour onto the us???
Did Hazoor Pak (SAW) not tell the Sahabas, what is going to happen now and in the future (Ilm e Ghayb)? Did Hazoor Pak (SAW) not know that he would have a following numbering billions of Muslims who are doing LaBaik Ya RASOOLALLAH! Did Hazoor Pak (saw) not know that he would have billions of muslims that shed tears on remembering him (SAW)! Did Hazoor Pak not know that he would have Billions of followers all asking Ya Allah accept me from the Ummat of your beloved RASOOLLALLAH (SAW)! Did Hazoor Pak (SAW) not know that there would be people calling themselves followers, but are not followers from the heart! Did Hazoor Pak (SAW) not know that there will be followers who number billions, some looking for the straight path, some on the straight path, some strong in deen, some weak in deen, but all Ashiqs of you Ya RASOOLLALLAH who will make your Milad Pak and protect your Family/Ahle Bait!!!!
Would not of Hazoor Pak taught the generations to come against celebrating his birth if it is truly a bad act?
If celebration in itself was the bad act, why did Allah mention the birth of Isa (AS) in the Quran as "Peace be upon you the day you were born"? Why was the word PEACE used? Surely if this was an abominable act, would Allah have said this (astagfarullah how can this be)?????
Wasalam
Wasalaam.